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      07-20-2019, 08:25 PM   #199
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      07-20-2019, 08:39 PM   #200
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Good lord do I want this build.....
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      07-20-2019, 08:56 PM   #201
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      07-20-2019, 08:59 PM   #202
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Good lord do I want this build.....
It looks like there are glowing red-hot intake manifolds on top of the engine; neat.
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Porsche has a loyal enough fan base to not be threatened. Some performance junkies might jump ship from a P car to a C8 based on numbers , but there are too many P-Car consumers out there for them to worry, at least when talking about the GT cars.

NSX, Supra, yes they should be worried.
Yeah, pretty low risk for porsche. They have people paying 100k for 4 cylinder sports cars and the people are happy!

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Porsche has a loyal enough fan base to not be threatened. Some performance junkies might jump ship from a P car to a C8 based on numbers , but there are too many P-Car consumers out there for them to worry, at least when talking about the GT cars.

NSX, Supra, yes they should be worried.
Yeah, pretty low risk for porsche. They have people paying 100k for 4 cylinder sports cars and the people are happy!

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That is ridiculous

100k for a 4 banger is dumb
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      07-20-2019, 09:11 PM   #205
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That is ridiculous

100k for a 4 banger is dumb
It sucks that they're purposely holding it back but the GT4 is pretty mean.
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      07-20-2019, 09:12 PM   #206
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That is ridiculous

100k for a 4 banger is dumb
Especially when IT ALREADY HAD A FLAT-6 IN IT BUILT BY... Porsche.
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I just got to thinking... how will this thing be to DIY on? The engine is just buried in the middle of chassis (for obvious reasons ). The entire underside looks paneled too.
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I just got to thinking... how will this thing be to DIY on? The engine is just buried in the middle of chassis (for obvious reasons ). The entire underside looks paneled too.
It's a Chevy, can't be bad.
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i can't imagine the performance the z06 will bring.. good god i can't wait
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      07-20-2019, 09:26 PM   #210
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It's a Chevy, can't be bad.
Yeah, well, I have a GM truck with a small block. The plugs were a beatch. And I have a lift too...
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I am skeptical about reliability and quality. The exhaust temps on this base Stingray are as high as the current ZR1, according to Chevy. How is this thing not supposed to heat soak during a track day in hotter weather? All for the sake of having rear storage for the targa tops or golf bags instead of additional heat dissipation at the rear. Are their engineers that good that they were able to work around this? It has been described as a "packaging miracle," but there are no free lunches in the world of engineering. Where have other compromises been made?

The interior is gross, yet again. Higher quality materials and less plastic - sounds great, but what about the claustrophobic seating arrangement with what seems like an even taller "wall" between the driver and passenger seats closing you in? And the crooked auxiliary tablet thingy just to the right of the steering wheel and the equally unsightly "spine" made of black plastic buttons? At least Porsche can disguise their buttons a bit better and not have them be a focal point of the interior space. A square steering wheel that would suck to live with on a daily basis... no, thank you. I'll take my steering wheel round and functional all day over this gimmicky thing. Porsche and BMW still do round wheels for a reason! The seats look legit in terms of lateral support, but that's the only appealing thing I can come up with for this interior.

Styling is subjective, but the front and rear look too much like the C7 for me to be excited. I just see this car as a mid-engined version of what Chevy already had, which, again, scares me from a potential reliability and serviceability nightmare perspective. The side scoops look cool, but the fact that they are also a part of the door makes me wonder how much they'll stick out and how easy it will be to bash them into my garage walls, parked cars, etc.

I will reserve final judgment for when real owners start providing feedback on track day performance, real world reliability, livability, etc. For now, I just see it as a car that has a lot to prove before I can jump on the "supercar for Supra money" bandwagon.


i'd pick this car over your 240 and i haven't even googled it yet.
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I'm loving the orange on the c8. Would def be my choice right now.
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      07-21-2019, 12:42 AM   #215
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I've never even thought about owning a Corvette....until now.
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C8 has me super excited. It can very well be next.
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      07-21-2019, 05:33 AM   #217
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Either the big ass ugly grill M3 that will be coming out and over priced or C8?

Hmmmmm.. no brainer.

Bye bye M3!
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Will have to wait to see how the C8 drives. There are just too many details that we won't know until actually having to drive the car. The current C7 with all its variants are already faster than a lot of so called supercars, but 911, Ferrari and the likes are doing just fine. Like I said before, a car is more than just speed. There are all sorts of intangible factors that cannot be captured on a spreadsheet. Just having an engine in the middle does not make a car a supercar.

Also Ferrari has a few cars with the engine upfront so engine location is not the determining factor. Likewise, I don't really consider the 911 supercar even its engine is at the back.
Agreed. Cautiously optimistic is how I feel about this car. I'm also a bit surprised there have not been any "no manual, no care" comments (at least in this thread, unless I just missed them).
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      07-21-2019, 06:40 AM   #219
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It's a bmw forum I can see how the corvette forum might be different about manual, any way what's the price with Z51, won't get you zero to 60 under 3 with base model, random guess, high 70k?
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It's a bmw forum I can see how the corvette forum might be different about manual, any way what's the price with Z51, won't get you zero to 60 under 3 with base model, random guess, high 70k?
In the case the Z51 in the C5,6,7 as far as acceleration goes just gives you a little bit shorter gear ratio good for a tenth or two I would expect about the same. The Z51 is keyed more for shaving track times and promoting racing longevity and not so much cutting lower drag strip numbers. We’ll see if the C8 follows Z51 suit.
Also the C6, C7 Z51 package was only an increase of about 5k, I doubt the new version will increase that to high 70’s all other thing being equal. I would venture to guess in the same ballpark maybe 1-2k more then the prior Z51 cost.
The LT packages is what really drives prices higher.
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