Anyone with Wrangler 4Xe experience?

[Bumpinjeep]

I'm thinking of picking up a third vehicle for the fam. It really would be there just for crappy weather (PNW). There are a lot of attractive leases on Wrangler 4Xes. Does anyone on the forum have experience with 4Xe powered Jeeps? I test drove one and really liked it all things considered. Still can't believe its almost $60K, but the lease rates are great so who cares?

[ZL9M2]

Not sure what exactly you need, but for that price you can get a nice Suburban RST with the straight six turbo diesel. Over 30 mpg highway and large enough to tow or haul whatever you need to.

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by ZL9M2

Not sure what exactly you need, but for that price you can get a nice Suburban RST with the straight six turbo diesel. Over 30 mpg highway and large enough to tow or haul whatever you need to.

The 4xe leases are stupidly cheap because you get the $7500 tax credit applied to the lease. I almost leased one before ordering my 392, you could get a $65k Rubicon 4xe for like $450/month with $0 out of pocket. Not sure what current rates are.

OP - the Wrangler is an awesome daily, I had a V6 JL and now have a 392 and might never sell it. I test drove a 4xe and liked it a lot, but thought I'd regret not going for the 392. It's definitely faster than the regular V6 and for the money I don't think you can do much better. Wranglers also hold their resale value incredibly well.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by ZL9M2

Not sure what exactly you need, but for that price you can get a nice Suburban RST with the straight six turbo diesel. Over 30 mpg highway and large enough to tow or haul whatever you need to.

The draw to me was the monthly payment ($265 a month with $4K down), along with the capabilities of the Wrangler. Plus it gets 49 mpg with the battery fully charged. It really isn't something that I would be driving too often anyway, something like a few months out of the year. Maybe I truly don't need it and rather want it. If this was something in the $700+ a month range then that's a hard no-go.
Hoping people have any sort of experience with the 4Xe vehicles to say 'go for it' or 'avoid it at all costs.'

[P1]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

The draw to me was the monthly payment ($265 a month with $4K down), along with the capabilities of the Wrangler. Plus it gets 49 mpg with the battery fully charged. It really isn't something that I would be driving too often anyway, something like a few months out of the year. Maybe I truly don't need it and rather want it. If this was something in the $700+ a month range then that's a hard no-go.
Hoping people have any sort of experience with the 4Xe vehicles to say 'go for it' or 'avoid it at all costs.'

For $265 a month, hard to go wrong. What else can you get for that kind of money these days?

[srybicki]

We have one soft top rubi with all the packages.
I know the leases have been going up all year. We love the one we got.

[Schn3ll]

My family member is a big Jeep guy, always had one, and has had a 4xe for about 1 year now. He loves it. I checked it out and while my first inclination would be to go with a 392, this would be an awesome (much cheaper) second place.

[Socal_R8]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

I'm thinking of picking up a third vehicle for the fam. It really would be there just for crappy weather (PNW). There are a lot of attractive leases on Wrangler 4Xes. Does anyone on the forum have experience with 4Xe powered Jeeps? I test drove one and really liked it all things considered. Still can't believe its almost $60K, but the lease rates are great so who cares?

we love our 2.0T 2021 Rubicon....not sure how far you are from Nampa Idaho, but I have a guy up there that does 8% below invoice on custom factory orders...hmu if interested. We flew up there and had a great road trip back home in ours.



That lease is a great deal though....although I prefer purchase because Jeep's are like big kid Legos and the mods are endless.

There is nothing like a Jeep for just having a sense just being able to go anywhere you want practically


this is from recent road trip up to Tahoe



If you plan on just keeping it stock though, the lease is great choice at that price

[bvvct]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

I'm thinking of picking up a third vehicle for the fam. It really would be there just for crappy weather (PNW). There are a lot of attractive leases on Wrangler 4Xes. Does anyone on the forum have experience with 4Xe powered Jeeps? I test drove one and really liked it all things considered. Still can't believe its almost $60K, but the lease rates are great so who cares?

50k is fine

[Bumpinjeep]

Well, a year and a half later...picked one up. Jeep still has a really low monthly lease. Jeep Seattle advertises $240 a month with $5K out of pocket. You basically add $100 a month to that price for taxes and license and blah blah blah, which is what i'm paying but I put down even less than $5K. Worth it. Went to work yesterday from my house, used zero gas.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by bdbsb

Not sure what exactly you need, but for that price you can get a nice Suburban RST

Not for $360 a month after taxes with $3K down you can't. You also don't get stellar gas mileage out of the Suburban, I'm on track to get 1,000 miles out of my first tank of gas. I dont think you get the ground clearance, nor the off road ability at the small size either. It's a hoot to drive.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

Not for $360 a month after taxes with $3K down you can't. You also don't get stellar gas mileage out of the Suburban, I'm on track to get 1,000 miles out of my first tank of gas. I dont think you get the ground clearance, nor the off road ability at the small size either. It's a hoot to drive.

How is the driveability around town? The reason I ask is multiple reviews showed a hybrid drivetrain at odds with itself. Per Car and Driver:

"In other words, the power flow through the Wrangler 4xe's running gear is, at times, harder to follow than the plot of Inception."

"Driving the Wrangler 4xe in suburban traffic is a constant reminder that calibrating two powertrains to behave as one is more than twice as complicated as tuning a single propulsion source."

It's crazy how bad the resale is on the 4XE. Probably best to lease or buy a slightly used one that's 1-2 years old for nearly half price now.

If you drive almost all city and with little distance, it can get decent mpg. Once that battery is depleted though, it gets 20mpg max on a good day. Still better than my wife's 2020 4runner though. That thing gets 18mpg going up hill, downhill, thrown out of a plane, etc.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

How is the driveability around town? The reason I ask is multiple reviews showed a hybrid drivetrain at odds with itself. Per Car and Driver:

"In other words, the power flow through the Wrangler 4xe's running gear is, at times, harder to follow than the plot of Inception."

"Driving the Wrangler 4xe in suburban traffic is a constant reminder that calibrating two powertrains to behave as one is more than twice as complicated as tuning a single propulsion source."

It's crazy how bad the resale is on the 4XE. Probably best to lease or buy a slightly used one that's 1-2 years old for nearly half price now.

If you drive almost all city and with little distance, it can get decent mpg. Once that battery is depleted though, it gets 20mpg max on a good day. Still better than my wife's 2020 4runner though. That thing gets 18mpg going up hill, downhill, thrown out of a plane, etc.

I haven't had any issues at all with it around town. I normally just plug the thing into an outlet in the garage overnight to charge. So when it uses the battery, the gas motor doesn't turn over and it still changes gears oddly enough (I imagine that's to keep the motor primed if it has to turn on). It doesn't buck, it doesn't do anything out of the norm, it just drives on full electricity. When I'm out of electric juice, it runs on the gas motor and still gets decent gas mileage around town because if going down hill, it picks up electrons and adds power back into the battery. Meaning, in stop and go, it just uses electricity instead of the gas motor.
Resale wise, yes, these things plummet. I think most EVs and hybrids seem to. So leasing one makes the most sense if you're looking at keeping costs down and trying out something like a hybrid.
I really enjoy driving it around town.
One of my G80 friends has one and the most miles he's gotten out of one tank is 1200 lol. I think my buy out was something like $36K after 3 years, no way i'm doing that at that price. I would buy mine for 20 something thousand and throw a small lift and 35s and call it a day. Probably ruin that stellar gas mileage so maybe not.

[paimon.soror]

rented one when i went to OBX earlier this summer. Honestly - and i've never driven a wrangler before - it was a hell of a lot of fun. And i quickly learned about the "jeep wave" lol. My daughter's (6 and 3) have been obsessed with jeeps, so we lucked out to see a "new" 4xe Rubi at the National rental at the airport. Those two were living the dream with their windows open waving at literally every jeep that drove by as others waved back.

The only thing thing that was sketchy was we had to race to the airport on our departure date because the flight times were changing. That thing gets pretty squirrely on the highway at higher speeds. It wasn't as confidence inspiring as our existing CX90 for that type of driving.

damn expensive though.

[peterfromsd]

Not a 4xe, but my wrangler rubicon. (Wife has a Defender coming in this week)

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by peterfromsd

Not a 4xe, but my wrangler rubicon. (Wife has a Defender coming in this week)
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I need to go wheeling in mine now.