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      10-24-2023, 10:33 PM   #1
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Mazda Iconic SP concept

https://newsroom.mazda.com/en/public...0/231025a.html

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MAZDA ICONIC SP is a new type of compact sports car concept, designed to adopt to the new era and respond to the emotions of customers who “love cars” and “desire a car that simply embodies the joy of driving”. This powertrain features Mazda's unique two-rotor rotary EV system, which remains compact and thus offers a high degree of layout flexibility, enabling the concept model to have a low center of gravity to enhance driving performance. Batteries are charged by recyclable energy source and the two-rotor rotary engine, used for power generation, is powered by carbon-neutral fuel. The vibrant red color of Viola Red, is a concept color created by overlaying Mazda's corporate philosophy of "enrich life-in-motion for those we serve" based on Mazda's desire to “cherish the color red.”

Masahiro Moro, Mazda's Representative Director, President and CEO made the following comment: “Mazda will always deliver vehicles that remind people that cars are pure joy and an indispensable part of their lives. As a car-loving company that mass-produces the inspiring mobility experience, we are committed to shaping the future with our partners sharing the same goal, as well as our fans, where everyone can proudly say, 'we love cars.' With such a strong will, Mazda is committed to enrich life-in-motion for those we serve.”

Mazda will continue to pursue the 'Joy of Driving' under its core value, “Human Centric”, and aim to deliver 'Joy of Living' by creating moving experiences in customers' daily lives.

■ Summary of the MAZDA ICONIC SP
  • In creating the "framework" that forms the basis of the modeling, we aimed to achieve proportions with a low center of gravity that would give the impression of excellent driving performance. The concept of mounting the lightweight and compact rotary engine in the center of the car has resulted in a low hood.
  • The two-rotor rotary EV system, which utilizes a highly scalable rotary engine that can burn various fuels such as hydrogen, generates electricity with carbon-neutral fuel. In addition, when the battery is charged with electricity derived from renewable energy, it is possible to drive in a virtually carbon-neutral state.
  • The high output generated by the two-rotor rotary EV system, the proportions of the lower center of gravity, and the weight distribution of around 50:50 achieve excellent driving performance. In addition, although it is a sports car, it can supply power when enjoying outdoor leisure and in the time of a disaster.
  • The exterior body color "VIOLA RED" was created based on Mazda's desire to "cherish the color red" and in conjunction with Mazda's corporate philosophy of " enriching life-in-motion for those we serve.” We focused on making a vivid color, while creating a sense of shade that accentuates the shape of the car.

Primary specifications of MAZDA ICONIC SP

Overall length x width x height (mm) - 4,180 × 1,850 × 1,150
Wheelbase (mm) - 2,590
Power-weight ratio -3.9
Maximum output (PS) -370
Weight (kg) - 1,450






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I like the design. I don't see this being commercially successful though if brought to market.
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I like it, it looks like a good blend of FD and FC. That rear hatch almost looks as though it was pulled straight from an FC.
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      10-25-2023, 05:47 AM   #5
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Okay, so the news release doesn't flat out say it, but do I read this as the EV drivetrain is a pure serial plug-in hybrid? This is the EV I would buy if a manufacturer would make it. I hope Mazda releases the engineering details.
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that looks wild, I like the interior
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Okay, so the news release doesn't flat out say it, but do I read this as the EV drivetrain is a pure serial plug-in hybrid? This is the EV I would buy if a manufacturer would make it. I hope Mazda releases the engineering details.
This

Exterior has so much FD/FC details
And the interior is my kind of minimalism. Less for the sake of declutter, rather than less for the sake of less
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Okay, so the news release doesn't flat out say it, but do I read this as the EV drivetrain is a pure serial plug-in hybrid? This is the EV I would buy if a manufacturer would make it. I hope Mazda releases the engineering details.
The Car and Driver write-up mentions the ICE part would be purely for range extending with a twin rotor. As well as overall dimensions and speculated horsepower / weight like in the OP.

Not sure where they got their info from but it does look like an interesting package.
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They need to make it full ev for it to be anything relevant.
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So we can count tall people out for this one.
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Any word on solid state batteries making it to production yet? Sporty EV options are welcome but I doubt this is with new battery tech. It will still likely be stuck with the 1000lb gorilla batteries.
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Probably twin rotor hybrid powering electric motors via a capacitor. Battery to start the ICE.

This is the future. EVs are so dumb.
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The Car and Driver write-up mentions the ICE part would be purely for range extending with a twin rotor. As well as overall dimensions and speculated horsepower / weight like in the OP.

Not sure where they got their info from but it does look like an interesting package.
I'm retracting my comment... CandD said, "Under the hood lives a hybrid system pairing an unspecified number of electric motors with a twin-rotor rotary engine. Mazda says the rotary engine is used for power generation, implying that it is simply a range extender that charges the battery and doesn't directly drive the wheels." CandD talking out their ass...

At 365 HP the twin-rotor rotary is not a "range extender", rather it powers the electric generator for the EV drivetrain. I read the Mazda information as the car is a true serial hybrid, meaning no direct mechanical linkage thru a planetary gearset to the drive wheels, just solely electrical power generation. A small EV traction battery is in the system for surge requirements and load shedding.
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Here is a quick "fix" I did on Paint.

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I dig it. So much Lotus Elise in that rear end
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The chance of Mazda coming out with a new exciting car like this is basically 0.

Aside from the middle life crisis mild Miata, they have given up on enthusiasts.

I do not blame them as Americans typically just buy boring CUV's these days anyways.
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