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12-20-2014, 12:24 AM | #23 | ||
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I do have an opinion on when life begins and in my mind, it begins when one is born. Therefore I don't believe that that which is unborn exists in sufficient enough a state that the rest of us need be legally concerned about its rights. All the best.
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At the heart of the matter, as a Christian, I do believe that life starts at conception. So although not born yet (as another poster alluded to), I see it still as life. And I think that's perhaps the most important difference that divides the two positions. Because if it is life, how can killing someone be viewed as a good thing? As a liberating law? To kill someone who has no voice, no say in the matter, all under the guise of woman's rights? What about all the rights of the unborn women who are killed - should they not matter if it was only about women's rights? Are there not other options - ie. if you do not want to have a child, there are many adoption agencies and people out there who are not fortunate enough to have a child who would love to have someone else's. And I suppose another point that bothers me...in the majority of these cases (rape aside), it was a joint (hopefully) choice to have sex and with that, no matter what contraception you use, you always must face the fact that you *could* become pregnant. You made a choice, and a pregnancy resulted - why should that result in someone who is innocent in the matter being aborted? |
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12-22-2014, 10:59 AM | #28 | ||
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In my view, educating about birth control is the key to this all, but we all know accidents do happen. For men, it is easier to walk away, but for women it is pretty damn hard. I have seen this many times in my life, the last time while in the states and in some town in Tennessee (if I remember correctly) I found a 14, soon to be 15 year old girl, a child in my view crying next to my car, because the car was pretty, and her life was over. She had found out that she was pregnant a few days earlier, and the realization what was to become of her was settling in. I left her my number so if she needed help I would make it happen. I am not saying an abortion is the only way, but the scars she will wear for the rest of her life no matter of the decision are bad enough already. We are humans and we fuck up a lot. Too many times this option should've been taken just for the good of humanity. Man gets to leave the bed, and do it all over again in a few minutes, we women carry the child inside of us for the 40 weeks, and then we will bare the traumas of the birth, the wait, the giving up/ keeping the kid and possibly losing all prospects of a better future. Can you honestly say when not just thinking about the ethics and the time life begins, this is fair?
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However, I do agree with your viewpoint that men tend to get to "walk away"...there truly isn't as much repercussions I would say for men, as opposed to women. To that end, I also wouldn't be opposed for making the laws more supportive in that case where men have to be more responsible for their actions as well...after all, it was a joint decision. |
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Abstinence as an answer is one that can't be supported by me ever. That just seems to lead to the no sex before marriage thinking, which puts us back to stone age again.
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12-22-2014, 04:05 PM | #31 | |
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Mmmm...no sex before marriage. Another thing I agree with! See, we are very different people! And so, here's a little image of how I think you see me...just so you have a mental picture next time you see me posting! |
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12-22-2014, 04:13 PM | #32 | |
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Despite our very different views in this, we managed to have a good conversation about it. That indeed is rare, and though either changed their mind, I feel this was worth the time on the keyboard. Thank you for that.
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This is what Christmas is all about. Gathering and love.
I too had a gathering of love in the form of my pride with women in the form of a parade the other night. Sheer inspiration and passion. Mmmm. |
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12-24-2014, 08:26 PM | #35 | |
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