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      06-25-2022, 02:57 PM   #80
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Originally Posted by tracer bullet View Post
Agreed. If I had a time machine, I'd go back and tell myself to get the 1M instead of the 135i, because it turns out that given the smaller size and (relatively speaking) lower weight, tactile feedback through the steering wheel, and etc. that instead of swapping it in a few years I'd actually end up thinking that I might keep it forever.

A Toyota 86 is like 1,000 lbs lighter than any BMW. I know it's apples / oranges, and you don't really cross shop the two. But come on, 1,000 lbs! Certainly a decent BMW can be made... 500 lbs lighter?
It does exist.....just as a GR branded Z4 coupe
A MT is coming and it just might .......maybe be below 3300lbs
A base 3.0 without drivers assistance package with the ZF is right around 3352
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