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Originally Posted by sirdaft1
Another interesting thought... how are the software engineers supposed to program the logic into the AV's in the case of an inevitable crash? For instance, what should it be programmed to do when a semi-truck swerves into the AV's lane and the choice is either: head-on crash with the semi, swerve into oncoming traffic and high chance of head-on crash, or swerve to the right where there are people walking on the sidewalk? Do they place a "life value" on the individuals involved in the scenario and take this into account in the logic? (ie: mother pushing baby in stroller has higher life value than convicted felon driving in AV???)
It may sound like is a highly unlikely event, but it's worst case scenarios like these that someone will have to program the logic on. And the more you think about it, the more it gets really messy.
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Good point on this one. Given an infinite number of slightly different choices (how much the car turns or brakes), all with the outcome of some type of crash which will more than likely result in an injury or possible death, somehow the programming has to make a choice on which to do and after the incident it will end up in court where we then decide if it made the best choice.
Maybe all the people in the car die because going off the road and hitting something out of the cars vision and it was possible hitting the oncoming car was better or the other driver would have reacted and there wouldn't have been an accident at all. We currently are ok with the driver doing his best and it not being the best choice but I don't see us giving systems and programming the same break. I also wouldn't want to be part of trying to program the system to make the best choice when all of the outcomes result in a crash and possible death.
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Originally Posted by Maestro
Bold text is the area I see it happening first, today in the US it is hard to get people to drive trucks the average age of a truck driver in the US is 55, and there is a move to have mandatory retirement for truckers. Today people do not want to drive a truck since it is hard work and people are lazy today.
I personal do not see self driving cars until all cars are self driving. Why, the human driver is still the unpredictable part of driving today. A self driving car may not cause an accident but do you want to be in a self driving car when another human causes an accident. Until they can prove to me the car's prime directive to save the human in the car over everything else I am not going to allow a software engineer somewhere to make a decision to kill the deer or try and avoid it and kill me. The only right answers is to kill the deer.
I personally think the best proving ground for a self driving car, will be NASCAR. If a self driving car and avoid accidents on the track and win the race then maybe it know how to drive and keep it passenger alive.
The other issue with self driving cars all of them only drive on roads which are almost perfect. They have not spent any time on roads in the north east or in bad weather like snow and rain.
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The part in bold means that there will never be autonomous cars and I don't see it. I think the amount the car drives will slowly increase and if up to me I would start with only limited access highways or at really low speeds like stop and go traffic. Limited access highway have the lowest number of options with no cross traffic, no oncoming cars, mostly well marked roads with decent lines and cutoff points.
I do agree on putting an autonomous car in each race (not all autonomous as this would be far too controlled). If they can't beat the best drivers in a very controlled environment (all cars going the same direction and all well prepared for an accident) then I don't see people having much faith in the system on the road where the possibilities are far greater.