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Originally Posted by tony20009
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In the PRC, there are indeed high quality and low quality, and every quality in between, fakes. The quality refers to the construction methods used and the movement inside. The high quality ones often have Seagull movements inside, and Seagull make very decent low priced movements that are easily as good as an ETA Standard grade movement, Miyota 8000 series or 9000 series movement, or a basic Seiko movement. A good Western haggler should be able to get one of those "high quality" fakes for between $25 and $50.
That fakes come in varying qualities should come as no surprise. ETA movements come in varying grades: standard, elabore, top and chronometer. Even among high end makers, there are sometimes varying grades of movement. the only difference is that they start at high quality and move to "so ridiculously high quality nobody but a super wealthy collector would even see the point of paying for it."
All the best.
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$50 for a good quality movement maybe but not a high end fake whole watch. The high end fake watches are anywhere from $500-1000+. They will contain actual Swiss-made ETA movements and there are tourbillion watches that have copied tourbillion movements. It is not uncommon to find copied Rolex 3135 movements that can be serviced and can use authentic replacement parts as well. At the high end prices, you are paying for the extra attention to details and the movements that go into them. These aren't $100 street specials. Factories make them in clean room conditions with modern manufacturing processes and QC checks.
Here is a ETA 2824 and a ETA 2824 clone. It's indistinguishable and parts are interchangable. You'll find similar copied movements for most popular movements. Often these movements are for sale on Alibaba, eBay and other places.
