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      06-01-2019, 07:34 AM   #734
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Originally Posted by Red Bread View Post
Using modern BMW ZF EPS feel as a benchmark is sort of like using Cadillac's median buyer age to talk about how woke your buyers are. I stand by BRZ steering feel sucking. Extensive road and track time with them does not impress me.

The rumor has been that Subaru had a decent setup in place to take advantage of the low center of gravity and rearward engine placement and then Toyota's dual mode injection and some other engineering snafus forced the motor to be mounted further forward than intended, causing the steering rack to move forward and the steering arms to be in the front, rather than the rear of the front calipers, the ideal setup.

Reviews of the current WRX and STI have commented how they have better steering feel than the BRZ. That's just sad. I of course haven't driven the Zupra, and realize it will have BMW's take on ZF EPS, but I'd hope it has better steering than the GT86.
You sound clueless.

I also had E92 335i which had the holy grail hydraulic steering.
So i speak from experience including my current F80 M3.

Please show me 1 review that says WRX has better steering or is more fun to drive than BRZ. The only valid criticism vs 86/BRZ is the engine is not special enough to be in such a great car. To me the proportions, Interior layout, visibility, usability are all much better than the Supra. Not to mention its half the price and comes with a manual.
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