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      04-05-2019, 08:47 AM   #13
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Drives: The E90 + Z4 Coupe & Z3 R'ster
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Originally Posted by Red Bread View Post
The motors both sucked and the manual felt pretty bad too. Trust me, I thought an ATS or ATS V might be the answer, but after driving both, I was really disappointed.

Chassis was great, ergonomics were good and size was just about perfect. But the drivetrain, dash and details were all pretty poor.
I drove the 2.0T ATS extensively for a week. It was the early years 6sp auto, but I'm not sure why anyone thought the engine sucked. It made class-level power and was very smooth. I also drove a 2.0T manual, and I do agree the clutch and shifter was not perfect, I don't think it detracted from the ability to affectively drive the car and not take advantage of the chassis. I also drove the 3.2L (auto only) and I thought the V6 unbalanced the chassis a bit compared to the 4-cylinder turbo.

But I'm really not sure what you are asking, then in either case of the Miata - Boxter gap, or the MT RWD sport sedan replacement for the 3-Series(?).

I'd say the E89 Z4 is (was) the car between a Miata and a Boxter. With a flat-4 turbo, the Boxter isn't even a Boxter anymore in my mind.

Regarding the ATS, it is the closest to the 3-Series. It wasn't perfect, but neither is the E90 or F30 for that matter.

Not really sure what you are saying...
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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