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Originally Posted by saxonb
Yes a notable exception is pneumatic valves.
The William's F15 C in 1992 did have electronic/active suspension: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_FW15C
Orthogonal to the point of formula 1 research and development driving performance automotive engineering, I would say this: technology continually improves. This means that the cost of all production will fall over the long term. If there was some sort of empirical evidence or theoretical proposition to argue that hybrid turbo systems are a flawed and fatally uneconomical, then I am not aware of it.
A 500g flywheel at 20,000rpm could be very powerful by my estimate. |
Having followed F1 since the early '90ties I obviously know about the
1993 (not 1992) FW15C. The point was that this tech was not developed in F1 either, but was adopted from road going cars. Between 1987 and 1992 at least 11 different car models featured partly or fully active suspension.
Not sure if the points you make about hybrid turbo systems are aimed at my comments?
I am a big fan of next years hybrid turbo tech, but that is also nothing new. Garrett did a lot of research on hybrid turbos (turbo with a EGM, or Electric Generator Motor) about 5-10 years ago. However it hasn't been seen in mainstream production, and perhaps that is where F1 can help in this case. BMW also filed a patent wich involves turbos with EGM tech.
Hybrid systems like KERS in F1 is also nothing new:
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This technology is not new. Flywheel energy storage has been used in hybrid vehicles such as buses, trams and prototype cars before but the installation tended to be heavy and the gyroscopic forces of the flywheel were significant. Flybrid has now overcome these limitations.
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http://www.flybridsystems.com/Technology.html
BTW, the F1 KERS flywheel rotate at over 60.000rpm's...
http://www.flybridsystems.com/F1System.html
The FW15C was a very technologically advanced car, however it did not represent any brand new hitherto unknown tech. It simply was the most technically advanced F1 car in history by adapting some old and some more recent tech, never seen in F1 before, but seen outside of F1 for some time.
Double Clutch Transmission in the M3 and M5, no connection with F1 at all. But considered one of the big improvements over the E60 M5 SMG transmission (which incidentally is closer to F1 tech...).
So, even though F1 is a great arena to test and develop technology, very little brand new tech is actually invented there...