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      06-25-2022, 07:40 AM   #71
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Drives: '11 135i , '15 X3 35i
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Originally Posted by FC05 View Post
The biggest problem I think is that BMW performance cars getting too big and too heavy and numb, it's not about manual or quick automatic nor how many wheels driven.
Agreed. If I had a time machine, I'd go back and tell myself to get the 1M instead of the 135i, because it turns out that given the smaller size and (relatively speaking) lower weight, tactile feedback through the steering wheel, and etc. that instead of swapping it in a few years I'd actually end up thinking that I might keep it forever.

A Toyota 86 is like 1,000 lbs lighter than any BMW. I know it's apples / oranges, and you don't really cross shop the two. But come on, 1,000 lbs! Certainly a decent BMW can be made... 500 lbs lighter?
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