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      06-18-2019, 08:27 PM   #93
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The "vast majority of homeowner" are not buying a home automation system. How many people are interested in lighting and hvac control automation but nothing else? Not many.
I guess this belief is where your perspective derives from. It couldn't be more incorrect. I mean no disrespect, because I'd probably think the same way if I were in your position.

While I'm teased by the thought on including commercial projects to completely dominate this point, I don't have to. MDU (multi-dwelling unit), spec homes, and even design-build categories are mostly just using lighting control and maybe a connected thermostat and video doorbell. They can even do this with a "lick and stick" alarm system like 2GIG offers if they want to get down and dirty. Most people don't care about distributed audio, never mind demanding it be integrated into a central control system. Distributed video might legitimately make other solutions attractive, but they're really is going the way of the buggywhip anyway. As a trained audio engineer, self-confessed audiophile, video connoisseur, and hardware geek that would love nothing more than build an epic AV setup; believe me when I say, easily +80% don't care about AV at all. A simple TV with perhaps an Apple TV or Amazon streamer is all they want. Even if they do decide they want to build a theater or media room, a single room solution is all that's generally required. Again this is coming from a pro experienced in regularly building six-figure home theaters.

[Side note: this relative lack of AV is partially why I became highly proficient at building high-end LANs. Most people will prioritize a badass network over a badass AV setup.]

Loxone is perfect for exactly this majority of the market. We make a home truly smart, that why we call it a "Real Smart Home." People are striving to build the most technically advanced and efficient structures possible. I wholeheartedly believe Loxone addresses this desire better than any other solution available.


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...separating major systems is exactly what I argued was a disadvantage of Loxone. That is why we have Lutron lighting and C4 automation. I guess I could see homes with Loxone and a more traditional control system integrated.
Consolidation is a topic in itself. How much do you integrate things? Sometimes I challenge designers as to if "the juice is worth the squeeze." Do we really improve things with the complexity and expense of consolidation? Did we just consolidate our problems? One system fails and I lose everything!?! To prove this point in an extreme way- I know of at least one very high-end Loxone Partner that runs separate Loxone hardware (same app and invisible to the end user) to run lighting and HVAC.
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