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      09-26-2021, 09:28 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by zx10guy View Post
The unfortunate situation is people are selfish and won't do the right thing for the betterment of others. Case in point. How many times have parents sent their kids to school knowing they are sick? How many times have people gone into work knowing they are sick but still do it even though they risk getting other coworkers sick? It's because of these behaviors that I see why mandates are being put into place.

I'm for mandates but only done in a smart way. The discussion about natural immunity is one thing that is not being captured in these mandates. Nor are specific medical reasons. I dated a lady who didn't get vaccinated by choice. She had severe reactions to past vaccines. She wants to get vaccinated but under advice from her doctor was told the risks for her are not worth it until more data is collected that can apply to her situation. I understand that and respect that. This is the problem when you have people making decisions under knee jerk reactions and having specific agendas without focusing purely on the medical aspects.

For me, I did get the Pfizer vaccine. This is coming from someone who has never had a Flu vaccine. I got it because if this is how we get back to normal faster, I'm all for it. As I've said before in other threads, the risks these vaccines pose are a cake walk compared to the crap I've had put into my body through chemotherapy. Want to see what real risks are? Take a look at all the side effects and risks from doing FOLFOX6 therapy. Granted my views on risks and my risk tolerance are all screwed up due to having faced my own mortality multiple times.
I got vaccinated for selfish reasons; protection of my personal health. Also like you, the flu vaccine I usually pass on even though, depending on numerous factors, between 30,000 to 60,000 Americans die each year from the flu. If people don't want to get COVID vaccinated then that's their choice; if the science is to believed (or trusted, maybe) they increase their risk of succumbing to the disease. And like you, I participate in a high-risk activity, I am a motorcyclist.

Perhaps if COVID-19 didn't arise during the previous Executive Branch administration, which was hyper-politicized, and as a result the Government's reaction to and treatment of the pandemic wasn't hyper-politicized, the concept of mandating vaccinations wouldn't be an issue. Unfortunately we are where we are. The concern for many is when we break the ice on mandating vaccinations in response to COVID-19 and indirectly mandate face coverings by forcing businesses to regulate adherence, where does it stop? Once COVID-19 has mutated out of existence, will the Federal government mandate mask use and vaccinations during flu season? Mandate vaccination and face coverings for minor pandemics far less life-threatening than SARS-2?

The previous Administration's initial treatment of the pandemic was two hospital ships anchored in LA and New York, the standup of field hospitals to counteract the prospective inundation of the US healthcare system (i.e. a shortage of ICU beds), adjacent industries producing shortages of PPE and medical devices, and a severe shutdown of economic activity, all criticized at the time as "too little too late". Yet, now with shutdowns clearly out of the picture amid the time of the Delta variant that is more contagious and people on this thread hyperventilating about ICU bed shortages, no hospital ships are setting sail, no military MASH-esque stand up of field ICUs are occurring; it seems the answer is mandating vaccinations, and again placing the burden on American businesses. And with no criticism from the Press.

Perplexing as much as mandated helmet use perhaps?
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