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      08-27-2020, 10:38 AM   #50

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Originally Posted by Red Bread View Post
The ND Miata did it. It's 100 pounds heavier than the original, has a ton more airbags, stronger door bars, pedestrian safety features, a back up camera, stability control, a modicum of roll over protection, etc. It's even a good bit cheaper in inflation adjusted terms.

Comparing a Mk4 or Mk5 GTI to a Mk7 or Mk8 actually nets you a few hundred pounds of weight savings. Not all cars have porked up.
I didn't say all cars have porked up.

I was pointing out, that outside of enthusiasts, most people don't care if cars continue to get bigger and heavier. That's why I used the example of a Camry. There is no incentive for manufacturers to do so on appliances, what Mazda did with the Miata.