[Bingham]

Originally Posted by M3WC

What can be purchased new from Japanese and Germans, that can off-road out of the box to the level of a Rubicon Wrangler? The value is there for someone who offroads or does overlanding. I would not call the Rubicon Wrangler overpriced. Owners thrash the hell out of them rock crawling and they hold up quite well. They can go straight off the dealer lot to Moab and tackle some of highest rated trails. I would not call them "shoddily" built. Bronco longterm reliability offroad has yet to be seen, so far they are quite capable.

Toyota Land Cruiser
MB G Wagon
Range Rover (BMW ICE)