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Originally Posted by 6oclockshadow
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Originally Posted by 2000cs
Ok, if that's your stance, how do you feel about treatment for the following:
Smokers (cancer, emphysema, COPD, etc)
Obese (Diabetes)
Snowboarders and skateboarders (fractures)
Swimmers (near-drowning, shark bites)
Drivers (auto accidents, with and without seatbelts).
We'll have to change the Hippocratic Oath and have all docs re-swear I suppose.
I'm vaccinated but I understand why many chose not to so far, including immunity from prior COVID, and real concerns about the vax and it being forced on them (this is part of a long mistrust of government issue for poor people especially African American inner city poor).
I also know that there are layers to the hospital capacity issue. One is we have had the pandemic in planning scenarios for decades and now in real life for 20 months. Why haven't hospitals created surge capacity? Another, staff losses and inability/unwillingness to hire, especially nursing staff (including resignations of those who aren't vaxed)? Perhaps there are also doc staffing issues, and other hospital staff. And then there are the treatments that seem to be very effective (monoclonal antibody is one) if given early, and reduce or eliminate hospital stay but have been politicized and now rationed, along with several claims about ivermectin and others. I'm not pretending to be expert on any of that, but mentioning some of the more real issues that complicate the vax decision for many and consequences on the health system.
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ER and ICU are designed to operate near capacity. There is a shortage of HC workers, not beds. There are no ICU's currently in the US that have to refuse patients.
You left out HIV. We should refuse treatment and shun HIV patients because their risky behaviour put them in that situation. |
That brings up a GREAT point here..
What if an anti vaccine person gets infected with HIV…..or, some may be currently infected with HIV..
Do you think they would suddenly go pro vaccine and get the vaccine if it was proven to cure HIV without any negative side effects?
Got to ask here. I'm just a drone who stood in line at boot camp and took the vaccine gun to the right shoulder, walked away with alcohol dripping down my arm whilst getting yelled at by male drill sergeants to get my BDU top back on and calling me female Manute Bol. Yes, they called me Manute in basic and AIT.. sucked.
You know what.. my got damn shoulder was sore for 3 days after that shot, but it's boot camp, I had a lots more going on like being scared shitless that I made a huuuge mistake joining the army and couldn't turn back and quit. When I laid in the barracks the first night awake and sleepless… I finally heard Taps play over the post loudspeaker at midnight. I cried my face off in that green wool blanket.